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imported_>sixwheeledbeast: Undo revision 50101 by 205.209.142.190 (Talk)

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	Another example of issues. I can say that I develop software for Maemo... but to say that I'm a Maemo Software Developer would be incorrect when both statements are identical from someone unfamiliar with Maemo branding.. This is because "Maemo Software" has special meaning as part of the branding document.		Another example of issues. I can say that I develop software for Maemo... but to say that I'm a Maemo Software Developer would be incorrect when both statements are identical from someone unfamiliar with Maemo branding.. This is because "Maemo Software" has special meaning as part of the branding document.

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	~~Team historyEdit~~
	When it is in Baltimore, the club won four NFL Championships, including Super Bowl V. Prior to the 1984 season, they transferred to Indianapolis to obtain a new stadium. They were renamed the Indianapolis Colts, which remain to this day.
	They franchise was officially made in 1953, nonetheless its been debated the franchise can trace its history much before that,Darren Sharper Super Bowl Jersey, to prior to the NFL actually began given that the Dayton Triangles, a founding an associate the NFL that's originally created in 1913.
	~~FoundingEdit~~
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	In 1946, the bankrupt Miami Seahawks for the All-America Football Conference (AAFC) were purchased and relocated in Baltimore. Because of a fan contest in Baltimore, the group was renamed the Baltimore Colts. The AAFC and NFL merged in 1950, as well as Colts joined the NFL. However, the franchise folded after one NFL season. After fans in Baltimore protested, the NFL formed another Colts team out [url=http://www.cheerpatriots.com/BenJarvus_Green_Ellis_Jersey_BG598.html]http://www.cheerpatriots.com/BenJarvus_Green_Ellis_Jersey_BG598.html[/url] belonging to the failed Dallas Texans for the [url=http://www.cheerpatriots.com/Premier-Tom_Brady_Jersey_TB88.html]http://www.cheerpatriots.com/Premier-Tom_Brady_Jersey_TB88.html[/url] 1953 season. Although debatable from a historical perspective, neither the Colts franchise also know as the Football take into account the various incarnations contained in the modern Colts franchise.
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	~~Related article:~~
	~~http://nikersportswear.spruz.com/pt/Nonetheless-this-is-actually-the-excellent-thing-to-the-NFL-psgqm0925.9-24-2012/blog.htm~~

205.209.142.190: /* Easily to get Rob Gronkowski Black Jersey */ new section

2012-10-05T19:15:19Z

Easily to get Rob Gronkowski Black Jersey: new section

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	Another example of issues. I can say that I develop software for Maemo... but to say that I'm a Maemo Software Developer would be incorrect when both statements are identical from someone unfamiliar with Maemo branding.. This is because "Maemo Software" has special meaning as part of the branding document.		Another example of issues. I can say that I develop software for Maemo... but to say that I'm a Maemo Software Developer would be incorrect when both statements are identical from someone unfamiliar with Maemo branding.. This is because "Maemo Software" has special meaning as part of the branding document.

			== Easily to get Rob Gronkowski Black Jersey
			==

			The Gambling can be a professional football team within Indianapolis, Indiana. There're folks the AFC South division in the American Football Conference (AFC) in the Football (NFL).
			Team historyEdit
			When it is in Baltimore, the club won four NFL Championships, including Super Bowl V. Prior to the 1984 season, they transferred to Indianapolis to obtain a new stadium. They were renamed the Indianapolis Colts, which remain to this day.
			They franchise was officially made in 1953, nonetheless its been debated the franchise can trace its history much before that,Darren Sharper Super Bowl Jersey, to prior to the NFL actually began given that the Dayton Triangles, a founding an associate the NFL that's originally created in 1913.
			FoundingEdit
			Indianapolis Colts
			The Colts won four NFL championships (three NFL Championships in 1958, 1959, 1968; and Super Bowl V in 1971) while in Baltimore. Since moving to Indianapolis,Drew Brees Jersey With Size: L, they won Super Bowl XLI in 2007. Also since 1998,Authentic Darren Sharper Jersey, the c's has become the first in league history to win 12 games or over in five consecutive seasons-extending this record to seven once the 2009 season. The c's headquarters and workout facilities will be centered at Indianapolis.
			In 1946, the bankrupt Miami Seahawks for the All-America Football Conference (AAFC) were purchased and relocated in Baltimore. Because of a fan contest in Baltimore, the group was renamed the Baltimore Colts. The AAFC and NFL merged in 1950, as well as Colts joined the NFL. However, the franchise folded after one NFL season. After fans in Baltimore protested, the NFL formed another Colts team out [url=http://www.cheerpatriots.com/BenJarvus_Green_Ellis_Jersey_BG598.html]http://www.cheerpatriots.com/BenJarvus_Green_Ellis_Jersey_BG598.html[/url] belonging to the failed Dallas Texans for the [url=http://www.cheerpatriots.com/Premier-Tom_Brady_Jersey_TB88.html]http://www.cheerpatriots.com/Premier-Tom_Brady_Jersey_TB88.html[/url] 1953 season. Although debatable from a historical perspective, neither the Colts franchise also know as the Football take into account the various incarnations contained in the modern Colts franchise.
			The club was officially founded in Baltimore, Maryland in 1953, but will trace its history in the Dayton [url=http://www.cheerpatriots.com/White-Rob_Gronkowski_Jersey_RG109.html]Rob Gronkowski White Jersey[/url] Triangles, a founding person the NFL that is originally made in 1913. After the line of changes, it assumed the "Baltimore Colts" name, replacing an earlier team that folded in 1950. Playing at Baltimore's Memorial Stadium, the Colts took over as the first NFL team to experience cheerleaders. They then relocated to Indianapolis in 1984, first playing with the Hoosier Dome, which was then renamed the RCA Dome before moving to Lucas Oil Stadium in 2008.



			Related article:
			http://nikersportswear.spruz.com/pt/Nonetheless-this-is-actually-the-excellent-thing-to-the-NFL-psgqm0925.9-24-2012/blog.htm

imported_>brontide: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */

2008-09-12T14:21:46Z

maemo is too overloaded, confusing

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	:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	:::: I like Quim's statement (probably butchered in my paraphrasing) that maemo.org is the official location of the Maemo Community -- which integrates other locations (such as itT, etc). Thus, Maemo Community Council works just fine. --[[User:timsamoff\|timsamoff]] 12:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)		:::: I like Quim's statement (probably butchered in my paraphrasing) that maemo.org is the official location of the Maemo Community -- which integrates other locations (such as itT, etc). Thus, Maemo Community Council works just fine. --[[User:timsamoff\|timsamoff]] 12:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
			::::: The problem is that "Maemo Community" is already defined in the branding document and it's separate from maemo.org. If maemo.org is just the official site of the Maemo community then so be it and the Brand document should be updated. [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 14:21, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

			Another example of issues. I can say that I develop software for Maemo... but to say that I'm a Maemo Software Developer would be incorrect when both statements are identical from someone unfamiliar with Maemo branding.. This is because "Maemo Software" has special meaning as part of the branding document.

imported_>timsamoff: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */

2008-09-12T12:30:49Z

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	::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::: I like Quim's statement (probably butchered in my paraphrasing) that maemo.org is the official location of the Maemo Community -- which integrates other locations (such as itT, etc). Thus, Maemo Community Council works just fine. --[[User:timsamoff\|timsamoff]] 12:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

imported_>generalantilles: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */

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	:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

imported_>brontide: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */

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	Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

imported_>jaffa: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */ Does it really matter?

2008-09-11T20:22:49Z

maemo is too overloaded, confusing: Does it really matter?

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	Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

imported_>brontide: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */

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	Other items that need updating. Maemo Extras -> maemo.org Extras. All of the mailing lists that are maemo-somthing either need to be Maemo-something or maemo.org-something. [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		Other items that need updating. Maemo Extras -> maemo.org Extras. All of the mailing lists that are maemo-somthing either need to be Maemo-something or maemo.org-something. [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

			Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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	[[User:brontide\|brontide]] 17:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		[[User:brontide\|brontide]] 17:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

			Other items that need updating. Maemo Extras -> maemo.org Extras. All of the mailing lists that are maemo-somthing either need to be Maemo-something or maemo.org-something. [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

imported_>brontide: /* maemo is too overloaded, confusing */ new section

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maemo is too overloaded, confusing: new section

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	::I'll take what you said into consideration. Thanks again. --[[User:jussi\|jussi]] 01:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)		::I'll take what you said into consideration. Thanks again. --[[User:jussi\|jussi]] 01:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
	:::Ref. "maemo.org is '''the''' website for Maemo", the idea is to offer any Nokia official deliveries from [http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/platforms/maemo/index.html Forum Nokia] and any consumer related information from the evolution of http://nokia.com/os2008 --[[User:qgil\|qgil]] 03:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)		:::Ref. "maemo.org is '''the''' website for Maemo", the idea is to offer any Nokia official deliveries from [http://www.forum.nokia.com/main/platforms/maemo/index.html Forum Nokia] and any consumer related information from the evolution of http://nokia.com/os2008 --[[User:qgil\|qgil]] 03:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

			== maemo is too overloaded, confusing ==

			Below are a handful of questions that I have or am translating from other threads. Right now the biggest problem is there is too litter differentiation between the software, the hardware, the users, and the community when it comes to naming. Maemo has become overloaded to the point that I have a hard time figure out what is being referred to. I think that this confusion is shared by the community as evident by the thread on maemo-community http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2008-September/000829.html and the thread at iTT http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23388.

			The most confusing would be maemo since it's the root. When I say Maemo community do I mean "Maemo" community as in "Open source software platform for mobile devices. Developed by Nokia in collaboration with the Maemo community and some of the best open source upstream projects." - community or do I mean "The sum of developers working openly on the Maemo platform and compatible applications + Maemo users with different levels of experience, interested in all kinds of collaboration and contributions to the project"? Does it make a difference if I call it the maemo community? What about the maemo.org community? What are those differences and do they make any sense to someone who has not read the branding document?

			Leading from there we have maemo.org, does this even need a definition, it's a website. The fact that it even has a definition will lead to confusion since something like "maemo.org community" since are we referring to only people that work on the website, or are we using the domain name to refer to all maemo ( or is that Maemo ) users?

			The reality is the community for Maemo(tm) is maemo.org, but the former is a trademark and the latter is a community driven initiative. So I can call my software "maemo.org Foo", but not "maemo Foo" ( I think ). It doesn't help that the Trademark policy is still not updated either http://maemo.org/legal/terms_of_use/trademarks/ and points to 404 pages ( http://maemo.org/intro/trademarks/ ). Since the trademark policy also current conflicts with the wiki, which is overriding.

			maemo.org is the community site, but bugs.maemo.org only tracks "Maemo software" bugs, not community bugs.

			In the end the fact is that maemo is partially trademarked by Nokia, partially the software that Nokia develops, partially a website that was run by Nokia and is now developed by the community, and partially the users that make up the community.... did I miss anything?

			[[User:brontide\|brontide]] 17:54, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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	:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::: I like Quim's statement (probably butchered in my paraphrasing) that maemo.org is the official location of the Maemo Community -- which integrates other locations (such as itT, etc). Thus, Maemo Community Council works just fine. --[[User:timsamoff\|timsamoff]] 12:30, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

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	:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			:::"maemo Extras" is clearly incorrect. https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3307 —[[User:generalantilles\|GeneralAntilles]] 23:39, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

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	Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		Garage.maemo.org is hosting projects that are closed to the community [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 18:35, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
	:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)		:I _think_ you may be overcomplicating things. The brand page says that "Maemo" can be used in conjunction with applications "Foo for Maemo", and does describe the platform. Therefore the mailing lists, IRC channels, etc. are all fine. Is the specific problem here the one raised as to whether the council is the "maemo.org Community Council" or the "Maemo Community Council"? --[[User:jaffa\|Jaffa]] 20:22, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
			::Is maemo.org the Maemo Community then? and what exactly does that mean? What about Maemo Extras? [[User:brontide\|brontide]] 20:28, 11 September 2008 (UTC)