Community Council/Council election May 2012/Candidate declarations - Revision history

imported_>woody14619: /* Candidates for May 2012 Maemo Community Council elections */

2012-05-24T18:04:37Z

Candidates for May 2012 Maemo Community Council elections

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	# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Nieldk/ Niel Nielsen / NielDK]		# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Nieldk/ Niel Nielsen / NielDK]
	# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/SD69/ R Bauer / SD69]		# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/SD69/ R Bauer / SD69]


			[http://maemo.org/vote/results.php?election_id=20 Election results ]

	== Candidate declarations ==		== Candidate declarations ==

imported_>nieldk: /* Niel Nielsen */

2012-05-08T13:20:12Z

Niel Nielsen

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	My thoughts on "Questions a candidate might want to answer"		My thoughts on "Questions a candidate might want to answer"

	1. ~~This community should be~~ open ~~to all~~ Nokia ~~platforms,~~ and ~~should work on creating better relations with Nokia on all of the platforms, I believe there is room for all~~.		'''1. What are your thoughts on integrating Harmattan and potentially even Meltemi/other-open-Qt+Linux Nokia/other manufacturer devices into the Maemo community and maemo.org?'''

	~~2. Actually I feel the~~ community ~~and council are quite~~ open and ~~accepting~~, ~~but surely~~ there is room ~~to improve. Council needs to open ears, and listen to the community input~~ for ~~improvements or changes~~.		''This community should be open to all Nokia platforms, and should work on creating better relations with Nokia on all of the platforms, I believe there is room for all.''

	3. ~~Creating better connections~~ with Nokia ~~hopefully can make this better~~.		'''2. There is a thread on TMO highlighting some of the problems the current council has had. Do you agree with the assertions in that thread that there's been a breakdown in communication between Nokia, Nemein and the council; and the council and the community? If so, how do we fix it?'''
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			Actually I feel the community and council are quite open and accepting, but surely there is room to improve. Council needs to open ears, and listen to the community input for improvements or changes. ''

	a) ~~This~~ is ~~needed~~, ~~and what I will try to accomplish~~		'''3. Do You agree, that lack of devices (hardware) is one of major roadblocks for Open mobility we would like to have? If yes, which way should Council focus on supporting:'''

	~~b) I think this road is doomed for failure,~~ better connections with Nokia~~, is the way to help~~.		''Creating better connections with Nokia hopefully can make this better.''

			'''a) Cooperation with big companies (Nokia?), hoping that they'll finally release "device of our dreams" (or thing close to)?'''

			''This is needed, and what I will try to accomplish''

			'''b) Starting hard, demanding and somewhat costly (without guarantee of success) path of creating own device via donations, which - if succeed - may result in totally, or almost totally open device (way of Open Pandora, Raspberry Pi, etc)?'''

			''I think this road is doomed for failure, better connections with Nokia, is the way to help.''

			Sponsoring is the only feasible way forward, either by Nokia supporting us, letting the community in the development process (design ideas, platform, HW etc), or by obtaining sponsorships by funding. Now second one may be harder, we need to think quite deep on where it is feasible and likely to get sponsored, there are many options.
			The most likely in my point of view, is sponsoring by Nokia. (please do start commenting LOL) as hard as this may seem, I do not think it is unobtainable. But we need to think out a win-win situation.
			I believe Nokia would likely be open to design ideas, and also input for a platform that would attract not only the devs of the community, but also, through unique UI ideas, the general user. now, in order to develop a new device.
			this is practically possible, without zillions of $$. Prototyping boards with all the necessary HW is available.
			Now, when it comes to finish the product (design, custom mainboard, chips, screen etc) to a smaller, usable device, this is where it will start costing, probably hunfreds of thousands $.
			THAT is where we need to look for sponsoring. Chip manufacturers, cell phone manufacturers or whoever would be interrested in sponsoring.

			If you believe I am 'only talking' I don't really blame you. Those who might have seen me on other forums for other platforms will know this is not the case.
			As for Nokia as a registered charity company, no they are not, but they are one of two who are (somwewhat) open for input.
			In other platforms community have a great cooperation with the phone manufacturers. Allowing some openness, but surely not complete (other companies play the hinder here - Nokia can not release sources for eg wireless network cards).
			This does NOT stand in the way for a more open platform, but we need Nokia to be up to speed (Sony is a pretty good example here) and actively help us developing binary blobs for where it is needed.
			So yes, I still say it is possible. And I will do my best to take part of the discussions with Nokia (also my employment situation makes this the more likely place for me to participate)
			I will try this no matter the election fall-out. But surely to speak on the behalf of the community, this election is the proper way to go. Otherwise it would only be 'me' single person speaking, making it much harder (still, not impossible)

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	=== Rob Bauer ===		=== Rob Bauer ===

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2012-05-08T07:20:06Z

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2012-05-07T19:20:04Z

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imported_>mrsellout: /* Piotr Jawidzyk */ (correct typo)

2012-04-30T16:06:49Z

Piotr Jawidzyk: (correct typo)

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	'''3.b'''		'''3.b'''
	Getting info about current resources used by '''Maemo ~~ifnrastructure~~'''. Sounds trivial, yet, when '''SD69''' asked it, '''Nokia's representative''' wasn't able to give more precise answers than "I have no idea".		Getting info about current resources used by '''Maemo infrastructure'''. Sounds trivial, yet, when '''SD69''' asked it, '''Nokia's representative''' wasn't able to give more precise answers than "I have no idea".

	'''4.b (same for both both Nokia-cooperation scenarios)'''		'''4.b (same for both both Nokia-cooperation scenarios)'''

imported_>sd69: /* Candidates for May 2012 Maemo Community Council elections */

2012-04-30T14:15:25Z

Candidates for May 2012 Maemo Community Council elections

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	# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Aries/ Arie Mark / Aries]		# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Aries/ Arie Mark / Aries]
	# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Nieldk/ Niel Nielsen / NielDK]		# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/Nieldk/ Niel Nielsen / NielDK]
			# [http://maemo.org/profile/view/SD69/ R Bauer / SD69]

	== Candidate declarations ==		== Candidate declarations ==

imported_>sd69: /* Candidate declarations */

2012-04-30T14:12:57Z

Candidate declarations

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	b) I think this road is doomed for failure, better connections with Nokia, is the way to help.		b) I think this road is doomed for failure, better connections with Nokia, is the way to help.


			=== Rob Bauer ===

			When I first ran for Community Council one year ago, I did so because of the challenges I saw posed by Nokia's embrace of WP7. While others declared this community dead and encouraged people to migrate to MeeGo, I was one of the loudest voices asking people to stay the course with maemo. I am proud of what the community has accomplished since last summer, and of the many people who have helped to build the momentum of today despite the people who have left. The number of "doers" may be drastically less than years ago, but I believe that most of the people who are still here are dedicated to having maemo-related OSS available in the future for mobile devices. The last council period was time intensive for me, but I decided to run again because the turnaround is unfinished and several of the other candidates have asked me to continue to work with them.

			In my opinion, the most important thing for the community to do is to decide and clearly state what it wants to do - a mission statement - I suggest "to promote and progress the future availability of maemo-related OSS for pocketable devices"; and then plan to accomplish that mission. There are many hurdles to this and I realize that some may believe that it cannot be accomplished, but the things worth doing are rarely easy to do.

			I believe that the maemo community can and should organize itself better in order to achieve its goals. The organizational structure that the community had five years ago when Nokia was pushing out a series of maemo devices is not the optimal structure for today. Maemo is in survival mode and the idea that the community should just sit back and let happen what will happen is dangerous. This is not to say that every maemo project should not be supported, but that there should be some management - nothing overwhelming but perhaps something like what is seen in other OSS projects. And everytime something is proposed, we ask ourselves - "how does the proposal further the mission statement?"

			I realize that there are those who are nostalgic for the old days and want the Council to have a limited role of interfacing with Nokia. But that won't work, at least not to accomplish the mission that I propose, not when Nokia has made no indication that they will be providing any more devices for maemo-related software. The various comments about communication are a distraction from the real significant challenges, such as how to deal with Nokia and its surrogates whose goals are laudable and overlapping, but slightly different the mission statement I have proposed. When there was silence or non-cooperation, that was not for lack of communication skills, but because of underlying, background concerns. The important thing is that the challenges have been beat back over the last six months, maemo did not die after all and can move forward again.

			As to other related projects and parties, I think they should be viewed in light of whether they further the mission statement. Obviously, projects like Mer/Nemo and Qt are complementary. There is the problem that maemo is partially closed, and the next software step is not maemo in a pure sense but some mashup of maemo with Mer or other projects. Other projects and parties, such as Nokia, are not quite so clearly complementary. If there is a new Nokia "meltemi" or other device that fits well with the community goals, then that will be something we work together to promote. I do believe that the lack of maemo-suitable hardware is a big hurdle for the community. Council should address this challenge proactively wherever the solutions may lie, and not have a laissez-faire approach.


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	== Questions candidates might like to answer ==		== Questions candidates might like to answer ==

imported_>nieldk: /* Niel Nielsen */

2012-04-28T17:17:30Z

Niel Nielsen

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	Nomination made on the [https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community/ maemo-community mailing list] at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005178.html		Nomination made on the [https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community/ maemo-community mailing list] at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005178.html

	This ~~candidate has not yet given~~ a ~~candidate declaration~~.		My thoughts on "Questions a candidate might want to answer"

			1. This community should be open to all Nokia platforms, and should work on creating better relations with Nokia on all of the platforms, I believe there is room for all.

			2. Actually I feel the community and council are quite open and accepting, but surely there is room to improve. Council needs to open ears, and listen to the community input for improvements or changes.

			3. Creating better connections with Nokia hopefully can make this better.

			a) This is needed, and what I will try to accomplish

			b) I think this road is doomed for failure, better connections with Nokia, is the way to help.

	== Questions candidates might like to answer ==		== Questions candidates might like to answer ==

imported_>rzr: /* Niel Nielsen */ congratz

2012-04-26T18:29:40Z

Niel Nielsen: congratz

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	=== Niel Nielsen ===		=== Niel Nielsen ===

			http://maemo.org/profile/view/nieldk/

	Nomination made on the [https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community/ maemo-community mailing list] at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005178.html		Nomination made on the [https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-community/ maemo-community mailing list] at http://lists.maemo.org/pipermail/maemo-community/2012-April/005178.html