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Talk:Task:Defining maemo

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==Defining maemo==
Asking to define maemo? I do not even really know what maemo was (or still is???). Start with a real newbie section after you have the definition ready.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
:Well, this is exactly the point: coming up with clear definitions that even a newbie (or precisely a newbie) would understand.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 18:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
::Hm, I think terms like maemo, Hildon and Internet Tablet OS mix together for a newbie.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
:::This is one of the reasons behind the proposal at [[Task:Maemo_brand#Definitions]].--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 21:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

== Discussion ==

=== What is maemo ===
Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].

=== Describing the maemo community ===
Many people see the maemo community as a group of people having Nokia as a counterpart. A more accurate picture would:
* Have Nokia as a community player, describing the activities that are done at a community level.
* Show the relationships with related upstream projects: where the collaboration is happening beyond just using the free software provided.
* Add the many organizations involved in maemo development or research, from companies to universities.

Also, what about

* Go a bit deeper inside the "group of people" and identifying core contributors: more work on karma and user profiles would be needed.

Now the most visible are the one ''shouting louder'' and more often. It would be useful though to identify key contributors in the many community areas: application development, platform hacking, documentation, support, bug reporting, news, marketing...
--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 05:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

--''From a practical point-of-view, isn't maemo pretty much completely dependent on Nokia right now? Are there any viable non-Nokia maemo platforms out there? How much core development is not directed by the Nokia mothership? Claiming independence is counterproductive if it isn't tied to reality. - mee 04:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)''

====Categorise the Community - thoughts====
The section above describes Maemo's place in the greater community.
However, who is maemo serving? (this may be a start on going a bit deeper)

Tech Level 1:
* Users : Windows/Mac desktop users who bought an N800 and want new wallpaper, a neat clock etc.
Tech Level 2:
* Power Users : Install more apps, alternative launchers, alpha/beta sw, up to new distros (eg Debian). More complex networking, ssh, scripting, python, documentation...
Tech Level 3:
* App Developers : Porting/writing gui apps and daemons; may want api info. Need to get to know the various environments.
* WM Developers : Starting to hack on gtk or QT4, the X server etc etc
* Kernel Developers : Fixing kernel bugs, tweaks, backporting, hardware support.

Each of these user types needs information : even an experienced kernel hacker will want to know the current best practice to setup the dev environment (SB1 or 2?)
More importantly pages should be written with an awareness of the target tech level.

Whilst thinking about the levels of user involvement I thought that we could help users self-categorise using some old Doom terms: "Easy", "Bring it on", "Hurt me".
Saves newbies complaining when they start down a path labelled 'Hurt me'...
[[User:lbt|lbt]] 10:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

=== Building a strong brand ===
Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].

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