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&lt;div&gt;==Defining maemo==&lt;br /&gt;
Asking to define maemo? I do not even really know what maemo was (or still is???). Start with a real newbie section after you have the definition ready.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:02, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:Well, this is exactly the point: coming up with clear definitions that even a newbie (or precisely a newbie) would understand.--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 18:58, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
::Hm, I think terms like maemo, Hildon and Internet Tablet OS mix together for a newbie.--[[User:kozuch82|kozuch82]] 13:04, 13 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
:::This is one of the reasons behind the proposal at [[Task:Maemo_brand#Definitions]].--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 21:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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== Discussion ==&lt;br /&gt;
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=== What is maemo ===&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Describing the maemo community ===&lt;br /&gt;
Many people see the maemo community as a group of people having Nokia as a counterpart. A more accurate picture would:&lt;br /&gt;
* Have Nokia as a community player, describing the activities that are done at a community level.&lt;br /&gt;
* Show the relationships with related upstream projects: where the collaboration is happening beyond just using the free software provided.&lt;br /&gt;
* Add the many organizations involved in maemo development or research, from companies to universities.&lt;br /&gt;
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Also, what about&lt;br /&gt;
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* Go a bit deeper inside the &amp;quot;group of people&amp;quot; and identifying core contributors: more work on karma and user profiles would be needed.&lt;br /&gt;
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Now the most visible are the one &#039;&#039;shouting louder&#039;&#039; and more often. It would be useful though to identify key contributors in the many community areas: application development, platform hacking, documentation, support, bug reporting, news, marketing...&lt;br /&gt;
--[[User:qgil|qgil]] 05:57, 5 June 2008 (UTC)  &lt;br /&gt;
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--&#039;&#039;From a practical point-of-view, isn&#039;t maemo pretty much completely dependent on Nokia right now?  Are there any viable non-Nokia maemo platforms out there?  How much core development is not directed by the Nokia mothership?  Claiming independence is counterproductive if it isn&#039;t tied to reality. - mee 04:28, 7 June 2008 (UTC)&#039;&#039;&lt;br /&gt;
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====Categorise the Community - thoughts====&lt;br /&gt;
The section above describes Maemo&#039;s place in the greater community.&lt;br /&gt;
However, who is maemo serving? (this may be a start on going a bit deeper)&lt;br /&gt;
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Tech Level 1:&lt;br /&gt;
* Users : Windows/Mac desktop users who bought an N800 and want new wallpaper, a neat clock etc.&lt;br /&gt;
Tech Level 2:&lt;br /&gt;
* Power Users : Install more apps, alternative launchers, alpha/beta sw, up to new distros (eg Debian). More complex networking, ssh, scripting, python, documentation...&lt;br /&gt;
Tech Level 3:&lt;br /&gt;
* App Developers : Porting/writing gui apps and daemons; may want api info. Need to get to know the various environments.&lt;br /&gt;
* WM Developers : Starting to hack on gtk or QT4, the X server etc etc&lt;br /&gt;
* Kernel Developers : Fixing kernel bugs, tweaks, backporting, hardware support.&lt;br /&gt;
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Each of these user types needs information : even an experienced kernel hacker will want to know the current best practice to setup the dev environment (SB1 or 2?)&lt;br /&gt;
More importantly pages should be written with an awareness of the target tech level. &lt;br /&gt;
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Whilst thinking about the levels of user involvement I thought that we could help users self-categorise using some old Doom terms: &amp;quot;Easy&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Bring it on&amp;quot;, &amp;quot;Hurt me&amp;quot;.&lt;br /&gt;
Saves newbies complaining when they start down a path labelled &#039;Hurt me&#039;...&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:lbt|lbt]] 10:47, 12 June 2008 (UTC)&lt;br /&gt;
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=== Building a strong brand ===&lt;br /&gt;
Discussion moved to [[Task:Maemo brand]].&lt;br /&gt;
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