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Nokia World 2009 QA

2009-09-01T08:57:03Z

212.234.187.150: /* N900 OS Questions */

== What is Nokia World ==
[http://events.nokia.com/nokiaworld/ Nokia World 2009 Page]

== General Question ==

== Carrier Questions ==
How long is the Exclusive period with T-Mobile in the USA?

AT&T Bands Planned, Timeframe?

CDMA Version Planned, Timeframe?

Any plans whatsoever for Latin America launches (Brazil, especifically)? Have Nokia talked to carriers (or vice-versa), is there anything to be said?

Any plans for an India launch? If so, at what price points? Also, any tie-ups with 3G-carriers (BSNL/MTNL) there to get the phone subsidized?

== N900 Hardware Question ==
Is there an internal battery for which would allow hot-swapping the main battery?

Does it have a Backlit keyboard

Is it a Pressure-sensitive touchscreen (MaemoPad+ supports)

I'm just interested in knowing to what extent you can use the N900 with one hand, i.e. portrait mode

Is it possible to disable/turn off the cellular radio without disabling wifi/bluetooth?
* From Thread; apparently pulling SIM chip will do this on Nokia phones.

can we use FM without plugging headset (internal antenna?)

is memory card hot-pluggable?

Stylus included? Extra stylus?

Does the tv out support too vga out. And what is the available mode (PAL/NTSC/?)

== N900 Audio Questions ==
Maximum sampling rates on audio output/input (think xoscope)

Is it possible to record high-quality (i.e. high bitrate) audio from the built-in microphone?

Could you test the sound with very very good headphone?
* Unlikely - unless there are very good headphones available there. I'll take my "normal" headphones --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you check that means no breath in headphones for music?
* Don't understand. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How does the n900 compare in volume to the N95/N800/N810 speakers when playing online videos from the browser and any youtube app such as digia, canola, mytube etc.?
* Will depend on hardware available (I'll have my N810) and loudness on show floor. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== N900 OS Questions ==

Will we be able to set the processor governor to performance mode like we could with the OMAP2 in the N8x0 devices?

Output of "df"

Output of "free"

Output of "dmesg"

Google "VOIP": What is the exact protocol used in the N900?
What is the video support? How do they relate to the current implementation of Google Talk / Voice&Video Chat? Can you do N900 <-> Desktop?

Is there Jabber/XMPP support like in the old devices (connecting to other servers then the google server)?

Is there support for "normal" Jingle (the technology enabling Voice/Video Chat over Jabber/XMPP) as opposed to the version thereof Google Talk uses?

Is there connectivity preferences, ie choose wifi over cellular to keep data costs down?

Is it possible to disable transitions (eye candy)? I believe an app will be available to do this.
* There's already an app in Fremantle extras, put together by Urho Kontorri. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a "Shared Folders" view in the File Manager like currently? I have read that there will not be.

In non-Fremantalized apps running full screen, how do you switch back to non-full screen mode, like fbreader? From the video it looks like a keyboard combination?
* Video shows Ctrl-Backspace. Will test. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you pull up a menu?
* Tap the title bar as in every Maemo version to date (see SDK & videos) --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you switch tasks, or close the app?
* See the videos, screenshots and SDK. Tap top-right to open Exposé-like switcher which has a close button. Top-level screen of each app also has an "X" icon. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can we install a webkit based web browser (like arora or midori) instead of default gecko one?
* From Threads: Yes.

Can we set a third party browser as the default html browser?

can we connect USB or bluetooth keyboard, gamepad and mouse?
* From Threads: Yes, as is supported by BlueZ stack.

is there any system monitor to see in real time the ram, the cpu , etc ... ?
* Every Maemo device to date has shipped with top --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Calendar could be sync ... but what is the sync feature supported. (Gdata (google calendar), mlsync, ... ) ?

Does the calendar application will be open source ?

== Browser Questions ==
Quality and smoothness on Video Sites like [Hulu.com], [openflv.com], Do they work in the stock browser?

Can I log on to secure websites and pay bills?

Try shopping with the browser on [amazon.com], does it crash when you add stuff to your basket?

Is it easy to accidentally click a link on the edge of the screen if a webpage is open and you sit it down and then pick it back up?

Does the Browser Support Client side SSL Certificates?

==N-Gage or gaming for Maemo==

When will be N-Gage gaming platform available on Maemo?

What games come pre-installed?

What games will Nokia publish for Maemo, and is EA (Electorinc Arts) gonna publish the FIFA or other games on Maemo? If yes, when?

==Ovi Store for Maemo==

When will open OVI Store for Maemo?

What development tools will be available for developers (C++ framework name?)?

Nokia World 2009 QA

2009-09-01T08:56:22Z

212.234.187.150: /* N900 OS Questions */

== What is Nokia World ==
[http://events.nokia.com/nokiaworld/ Nokia World 2009 Page]

== General Question ==

== Carrier Questions ==
How long is the Exclusive period with T-Mobile in the USA?

AT&T Bands Planned, Timeframe?

CDMA Version Planned, Timeframe?

Any plans whatsoever for Latin America launches (Brazil, especifically)? Have Nokia talked to carriers (or vice-versa), is there anything to be said?

Any plans for an India launch? If so, at what price points? Also, any tie-ups with 3G-carriers (BSNL/MTNL) there to get the phone subsidized?

== N900 Hardware Question ==
Is there an internal battery for which would allow hot-swapping the main battery?

Does it have a Backlit keyboard

Is it a Pressure-sensitive touchscreen (MaemoPad+ supports)

I'm just interested in knowing to what extent you can use the N900 with one hand, i.e. portrait mode

Is it possible to disable/turn off the cellular radio without disabling wifi/bluetooth?
* From Thread; apparently pulling SIM chip will do this on Nokia phones.

can we use FM without plugging headset (internal antenna?)

is memory card hot-pluggable?

Stylus included? Extra stylus?

Does the tv out support too vga out. And what is the available mode (PAL/NTSC/?)

== N900 Audio Questions ==
Maximum sampling rates on audio output/input (think xoscope)

Is it possible to record high-quality (i.e. high bitrate) audio from the built-in microphone?

Could you test the sound with very very good headphone?
* Unlikely - unless there are very good headphones available there. I'll take my "normal" headphones --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you check that means no breath in headphones for music?
* Don't understand. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How does the n900 compare in volume to the N95/N800/N810 speakers when playing online videos from the browser and any youtube app such as digia, canola, mytube etc.?
* Will depend on hardware available (I'll have my N810) and loudness on show floor. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== N900 OS Questions ==

Will we be able to set the processor governor to performance mode like we could with the OMAP2 in the N8x0 devices?

Output of "df"

Output of "free"

Output of "dmesg"

Google "VOIP": What is the exact protocol used in the N900?
What is the video support? How do they relate to the current implementation of Google Talk / Voice&Video Chat? Can you do N900 <-> Desktop?

Is there Jabber/XMPP support like in the old devices (connecting to other servers then the google server)?

Is there support for "normal" Jingle (the technology enabling Voice/Video Chat over Jabber/XMPP) as opposed to the version thereof Google Talk uses?

Is there connectivity preferences, ie choose wifi over cellular to keep data costs down?

Is it possible to disable transitions (eye candy)? I believe an app will be available to do this.
* There's already an app in Fremantle extras, put together by Urho Kontorri. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a "Shared Folders" view in the File Manager like currently? I have read that there will not be.

In non-Fremantalized apps running full screen, how do you switch back to non-full screen mode, like fbreader? From the video it looks like a keyboard combination?
* Video shows Ctrl-Backspace. Will test. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you pull up a menu?
* Tap the title bar as in every Maemo version to date (see SDK & videos) --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you switch tasks, or close the app?
* See the videos, screenshots and SDK. Tap top-right to open Exposé-like switcher which has a close button. Top-level screen of each app also has an "X" icon. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can we install a webkit based web browser (like arora or midori) instead of default gecko one?
* From Threads: Yes.

Can we set a third party browser as the default html browser?

can we connect USB or bluetooth keyboard, gamepad and mouse?
* From Threads: Yes, as is supported by BlueZ stack.

is there any system monitor to see in real time the ram, the cpu , etc ... ?
* Every Maemo device to date has shipped with top --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Calendar could be sync ... but what is the sync feature supported. (Gdata (google calendar), mlsync, ... ) ?

== Browser Questions ==
Quality and smoothness on Video Sites like [Hulu.com], [openflv.com], Do they work in the stock browser?

Can I log on to secure websites and pay bills?

Try shopping with the browser on [amazon.com], does it crash when you add stuff to your basket?

Is it easy to accidentally click a link on the edge of the screen if a webpage is open and you sit it down and then pick it back up?

Does the Browser Support Client side SSL Certificates?

==N-Gage or gaming for Maemo==

When will be N-Gage gaming platform available on Maemo?

What games come pre-installed?

What games will Nokia publish for Maemo, and is EA (Electorinc Arts) gonna publish the FIFA or other games on Maemo? If yes, when?

==Ovi Store for Maemo==

When will open OVI Store for Maemo?

What development tools will be available for developers (C++ framework name?)?

Nokia World 2009 QA

2009-09-01T08:55:08Z

212.234.187.150: /* N900 Hardware Question */

== What is Nokia World ==
[http://events.nokia.com/nokiaworld/ Nokia World 2009 Page]

== General Question ==

== Carrier Questions ==
How long is the Exclusive period with T-Mobile in the USA?

AT&T Bands Planned, Timeframe?

CDMA Version Planned, Timeframe?

Any plans whatsoever for Latin America launches (Brazil, especifically)? Have Nokia talked to carriers (or vice-versa), is there anything to be said?

Any plans for an India launch? If so, at what price points? Also, any tie-ups with 3G-carriers (BSNL/MTNL) there to get the phone subsidized?

== N900 Hardware Question ==
Is there an internal battery for which would allow hot-swapping the main battery?

Does it have a Backlit keyboard

Is it a Pressure-sensitive touchscreen (MaemoPad+ supports)

I'm just interested in knowing to what extent you can use the N900 with one hand, i.e. portrait mode

Is it possible to disable/turn off the cellular radio without disabling wifi/bluetooth?
* From Thread; apparently pulling SIM chip will do this on Nokia phones.

can we use FM without plugging headset (internal antenna?)

is memory card hot-pluggable?

Stylus included? Extra stylus?

Does the tv out support too vga out. And what is the available mode (PAL/NTSC/?)

== N900 Audio Questions ==
Maximum sampling rates on audio output/input (think xoscope)

Is it possible to record high-quality (i.e. high bitrate) audio from the built-in microphone?

Could you test the sound with very very good headphone?
* Unlikely - unless there are very good headphones available there. I'll take my "normal" headphones --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you check that means no breath in headphones for music?
* Don't understand. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How does the n900 compare in volume to the N95/N800/N810 speakers when playing online videos from the browser and any youtube app such as digia, canola, mytube etc.?
* Will depend on hardware available (I'll have my N810) and loudness on show floor. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== N900 OS Questions ==

Will we be able to set the processor governor to performance mode like we could with the OMAP2 in the N8x0 devices?

Output of "df"

Output of "free"

Output of "dmesg"

Google "VOIP": What is the exact protocol used in the N900?
What is the video support? How do they relate to the current implementation of Google Talk / Voice&Video Chat? Can you do N900 <-> Desktop?

Is there Jabber/XMPP support like in the old devices (connecting to other servers then the google server)?

Is there support for "normal" Jingle (the technology enabling Voice/Video Chat over Jabber/XMPP) as opposed to the version thereof Google Talk uses?

Is there connectivity preferences, ie choose wifi over cellular to keep data costs down?

Is it possible to disable transitions (eye candy)? I believe an app will be available to do this.
* There's already an app in Fremantle extras, put together by Urho Kontorri. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a "Shared Folders" view in the File Manager like currently? I have read that there will not be.

In non-Fremantalized apps running full screen, how do you switch back to non-full screen mode, like fbreader? From the video it looks like a keyboard combination?
* Video shows Ctrl-Backspace. Will test. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you pull up a menu?
* Tap the title bar as in every Maemo version to date (see SDK & videos) --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you switch tasks, or close the app?
* See the videos, screenshots and SDK. Tap top-right to open Exposé-like switcher which has a close button. Top-level screen of each app also has an "X" icon. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can we install a webkit based web browser (like arora or midori) instead of default gecko one?
* From Threads: Yes.

Can we set a third party browser as the default html browser?

can we connect USB or bluetooth keyboard, gamepad and mouse?
* From Threads: Yes, as is supported by BlueZ stack.

is there any system monitor to see in real time the ram, the cpu , etc ... ?
* Every Maemo device to date has shipped with top --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Browser Questions ==
Quality and smoothness on Video Sites like [Hulu.com], [openflv.com], Do they work in the stock browser?

Can I log on to secure websites and pay bills?

Try shopping with the browser on [amazon.com], does it crash when you add stuff to your basket?

Is it easy to accidentally click a link on the edge of the screen if a webpage is open and you sit it down and then pick it back up?

Does the Browser Support Client side SSL Certificates?

==N-Gage or gaming for Maemo==

When will be N-Gage gaming platform available on Maemo?

What games come pre-installed?

What games will Nokia publish for Maemo, and is EA (Electorinc Arts) gonna publish the FIFA or other games on Maemo? If yes, when?

==Ovi Store for Maemo==

When will open OVI Store for Maemo?

What development tools will be available for developers (C++ framework name?)?

Nokia World 2009 QA

2009-09-01T08:54:50Z

212.234.187.150: /* N900 OS Questions */

== What is Nokia World ==
[http://events.nokia.com/nokiaworld/ Nokia World 2009 Page]

== General Question ==

== Carrier Questions ==
How long is the Exclusive period with T-Mobile in the USA?

AT&T Bands Planned, Timeframe?

CDMA Version Planned, Timeframe?

Any plans whatsoever for Latin America launches (Brazil, especifically)? Have Nokia talked to carriers (or vice-versa), is there anything to be said?

Any plans for an India launch? If so, at what price points? Also, any tie-ups with 3G-carriers (BSNL/MTNL) there to get the phone subsidized?

== N900 Hardware Question ==
Is there an internal battery for which would allow hot-swapping the main battery?

Does it have a Backlit keyboard

Is it a Pressure-sensitive touchscreen (MaemoPad+ supports)

I'm just interested in knowing to what extent you can use the N900 with one hand, i.e. portrait mode

Is it possible to disable/turn off the cellular radio without disabling wifi/bluetooth?
* From Thread; apparently pulling SIM chip will do this on Nokia phones.

can we use FM without plugging headset (internal antenna?)

is memory card hot-pluggable?

Stylus included? Extra stylus?

== N900 Audio Questions ==
Maximum sampling rates on audio output/input (think xoscope)

Is it possible to record high-quality (i.e. high bitrate) audio from the built-in microphone?

Could you test the sound with very very good headphone?
* Unlikely - unless there are very good headphones available there. I'll take my "normal" headphones --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you check that means no breath in headphones for music?
* Don't understand. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How does the n900 compare in volume to the N95/N800/N810 speakers when playing online videos from the browser and any youtube app such as digia, canola, mytube etc.?
* Will depend on hardware available (I'll have my N810) and loudness on show floor. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== N900 OS Questions ==

Will we be able to set the processor governor to performance mode like we could with the OMAP2 in the N8x0 devices?

Output of "df"

Output of "free"

Output of "dmesg"

Google "VOIP": What is the exact protocol used in the N900?
What is the video support? How do they relate to the current implementation of Google Talk / Voice&Video Chat? Can you do N900 <-> Desktop?

Is there Jabber/XMPP support like in the old devices (connecting to other servers then the google server)?

Is there support for "normal" Jingle (the technology enabling Voice/Video Chat over Jabber/XMPP) as opposed to the version thereof Google Talk uses?

Is there connectivity preferences, ie choose wifi over cellular to keep data costs down?

Is it possible to disable transitions (eye candy)? I believe an app will be available to do this.
* There's already an app in Fremantle extras, put together by Urho Kontorri. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a "Shared Folders" view in the File Manager like currently? I have read that there will not be.

In non-Fremantalized apps running full screen, how do you switch back to non-full screen mode, like fbreader? From the video it looks like a keyboard combination?
* Video shows Ctrl-Backspace. Will test. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you pull up a menu?
* Tap the title bar as in every Maemo version to date (see SDK & videos) --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you switch tasks, or close the app?
* See the videos, screenshots and SDK. Tap top-right to open Exposé-like switcher which has a close button. Top-level screen of each app also has an "X" icon. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can we install a webkit based web browser (like arora or midori) instead of default gecko one?
* From Threads: Yes.

Can we set a third party browser as the default html browser?

can we connect USB or bluetooth keyboard, gamepad and mouse?
* From Threads: Yes, as is supported by BlueZ stack.

is there any system monitor to see in real time the ram, the cpu , etc ... ?
* Every Maemo device to date has shipped with top --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== Browser Questions ==
Quality and smoothness on Video Sites like [Hulu.com], [openflv.com], Do they work in the stock browser?

Can I log on to secure websites and pay bills?

Try shopping with the browser on [amazon.com], does it crash when you add stuff to your basket?

Is it easy to accidentally click a link on the edge of the screen if a webpage is open and you sit it down and then pick it back up?

Does the Browser Support Client side SSL Certificates?

==N-Gage or gaming for Maemo==

When will be N-Gage gaming platform available on Maemo?

What games come pre-installed?

What games will Nokia publish for Maemo, and is EA (Electorinc Arts) gonna publish the FIFA or other games on Maemo? If yes, when?

==Ovi Store for Maemo==

When will open OVI Store for Maemo?

What development tools will be available for developers (C++ framework name?)?

Nokia World 2009 QA

2009-09-01T08:53:06Z

212.234.187.150: /* N900 OS Questions */

== What is Nokia World ==
[http://events.nokia.com/nokiaworld/ Nokia World 2009 Page]

== General Question ==

== Carrier Questions ==
How long is the Exclusive period with T-Mobile in the USA?

AT&T Bands Planned, Timeframe?

CDMA Version Planned, Timeframe?

Any plans whatsoever for Latin America launches (Brazil, especifically)? Have Nokia talked to carriers (or vice-versa), is there anything to be said?

Any plans for an India launch? If so, at what price points? Also, any tie-ups with 3G-carriers (BSNL/MTNL) there to get the phone subsidized?

== N900 Hardware Question ==
Is there an internal battery for which would allow hot-swapping the main battery?

Does it have a Backlit keyboard

Is it a Pressure-sensitive touchscreen (MaemoPad+ supports)

I'm just interested in knowing to what extent you can use the N900 with one hand, i.e. portrait mode

Is it possible to disable/turn off the cellular radio without disabling wifi/bluetooth?
* From Thread; apparently pulling SIM chip will do this on Nokia phones.

can we use FM without plugging headset (internal antenna?)

is memory card hot-pluggable?

Stylus included? Extra stylus?

== N900 Audio Questions ==
Maximum sampling rates on audio output/input (think xoscope)

Is it possible to record high-quality (i.e. high bitrate) audio from the built-in microphone?

Could you test the sound with very very good headphone?
* Unlikely - unless there are very good headphones available there. I'll take my "normal" headphones --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can you check that means no breath in headphones for music?
* Don't understand. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How does the n900 compare in volume to the N95/N800/N810 speakers when playing online videos from the browser and any youtube app such as digia, canola, mytube etc.?
* Will depend on hardware available (I'll have my N810) and loudness on show floor. --06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

== N900 OS Questions ==

Will we be able to set the processor governor to performance mode like we could with the OMAP2 in the N8x0 devices?

Output of "df"

Output of "free"

Output of "dmesg"

Google "VOIP": What is the exact protocol used in the N900?
What is the video support? How do they relate to the current implementation of Google Talk / Voice&Video Chat? Can you do N900 <-> Desktop?

Is there Jabber/XMPP support like in the old devices (connecting to other servers then the google server)?

Is there support for "normal" Jingle (the technology enabling Voice/Video Chat over Jabber/XMPP) as opposed to the version thereof Google Talk uses?

Is there connectivity preferences, ie choose wifi over cellular to keep data costs down?

Is it possible to disable transitions (eye candy)? I believe an app will be available to do this.
* There's already an app in Fremantle extras, put together by Urho Kontorri. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Is there a "Shared Folders" view in the File Manager like currently? I have read that there will not be.

In non-Fremantalized apps running full screen, how do you switch back to non-full screen mode, like fbreader? From the video it looks like a keyboard combination?
* Video shows Ctrl-Backspace. Will test. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you pull up a menu?
* Tap the title bar as in every Maemo version to date (see SDK & videos) --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

How do you switch tasks, or close the app?
* See the videos, screenshots and SDK. Tap top-right to open Exposé-like switcher which has a close button. Top-level screen of each app also has an "X" icon. --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Can we install a webkit based web browser (like arora or midori) instead of default gecko one?
* From Threads: Yes.

Can we set a third party browser as the default html browser?

can we connect USB or bluetooth keyboard, gamepad and mouse?
* From Threads: Yes, as is supported by BlueZ stack.

is there any system monitor to see in real time the ram, the cpu , etc ... ?
* Every Maemo device to date has shipped with top --[[User:jaffa|Jaffa]] 06:56, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

Does the tv out support too vga out. And what is the available mode (PAL/NTSC/?)

== Browser Questions ==
Quality and smoothness on Video Sites like [Hulu.com], [openflv.com], Do they work in the stock browser?

Can I log on to secure websites and pay bills?

Try shopping with the browser on [amazon.com], does it crash when you add stuff to your basket?

Is it easy to accidentally click a link on the edge of the screen if a webpage is open and you sit it down and then pick it back up?

Does the Browser Support Client side SSL Certificates?

==N-Gage or gaming for Maemo==

When will be N-Gage gaming platform available on Maemo?

What games come pre-installed?

What games will Nokia publish for Maemo, and is EA (Electorinc Arts) gonna publish the FIFA or other games on Maemo? If yes, when?

==Ovi Store for Maemo==

When will open OVI Store for Maemo?

What development tools will be available for developers (C++ framework name?)?

Talk:Diablo Extras repository proposal

2008-06-19T15:05:16Z

212.234.187.150: /* Issues for on-device developers */

== Issues for on-device developers ==
If i understand well, only package build with autobuilder could be uploaded. If it s the case, i don't think it s a good solution for onboard developpers, as debian tool can't be used directly on the it. If diablo let s us use debian packaging tool directly on tablet it ll not be a problem. (The main problem using dpkg-buildpackage is that many option of many tools aren't available due to busybox).

Furthermore, if there is too difficulty to upload to extras or extras-devel, many dev will make their own repository. And i don't think it s a good idea. But i understand that you want to have a repository were users can rely on and where there is no error on installing packages.--[[User:khertan|khertan]] 11:08, 19 June 2008 (GMT+2)
: I think that your specific problem is mainly for python developers, only developing on the tablet itself. Easiest solution for them would be to improve pypackager so it creates valid archives and can upload the packages. As I understand it is almost doing that already and just might need a few fixes. Sure it would require a little more effort from developers, but they also have an interest in getting their applications to the end user? --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 09:24, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:: I agree, this is just why i ven't say anything for freemantle, just to get the time to fix pypackager to make clean packages for diablo. And i hope developpers will not create others repositories.--[[User:khertan|khertan]] 17:04, 19 June 2008 (GMT+2)

== Section problem ==
Please let us fix the section problem. Packages to go into extras and extras-devel must respect the naming scheme for sections. This was often critized and (while there is possibly no solution yet) this would be the right time to get it solved. --[[User:framstag|framstag]] 12:01, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
: This section problem is something we can't easily fix and certainly not on a short-term. There will always be a category that isn't described in our 'official' sections list. Debtags really seems to be a better solution, but it would need to be implemented in the Application Manager too. Aim for Fremantle to get debtags introduced? --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 14:43, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

== Binary-only packages? ==
I agree with the proposal, but what about binary only packages ?
--[[User:anidel|anidel]] 13:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
:Do you mean closed source applications? Or for example an icon pack? --[[User:xfade|xfade]] 14:45, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Task:100Days

2008-05-30T12:04:10Z

212.234.187.150: /* Update developer libraries */

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* '''Please login''' before making any changes. '''Thank you'''.
* Please keep things '''on-topic'''.
* Avoid asking for end-user applications unless there's a '''good reason''' why they need to be tied into the underlying OS.
* Don't put things which aren't feasible in '''3 months'''. For long term suggestions, consider adding them at [[2010_Agenda|maemo.org 2010]].
|}

==Get the server and bandwidth infrastructure up to speed==
*Mirror the repository.maemo.org to ensure good uptime.
*Mirror tablets-dev.nokia.com to ensure good uptime.
*Improve the hardware and bandwidth availability behind *.maemo.org to ensure quick response—maemo.org is too slow!

== [http://www.internettablettalk.com Internet Tablet Talk] Syndication ==
* Provide an automatic way to re-list applications at the Internet Tablet Talk Software Section (itTSS).
* Each application (version) that is re-listed at Internet Tablet Talk, starts a new thread in the forums so end-users get notified of new apps as well as provide a way to give feedback to the developers. Developers themselves can also join in the discussion. This hope to help better the quality of applications.
* Provide a way for developers to easily add a bug at the application's Garage page for confirmed bugs reported in the discussion thread.

== Update developer libraries ==
* gcc-4.x, glib, powervr, it's important to give developers much more time to play with newer tools than short before a major upgrade takes place (of course with disclaimer that nothing is guaranteed to be shipped in a certain way)
*add IPv6 support!
**''Already in Diablo, not relevant to ''maemo.org'' [[User:generalantilles|generalantilles]] 23:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* Update the vmware appliance with sb2 and python2.5 setted. And more publicity on the vmware appliance, as their is already one on garage, but many don't know it.

== Focus developers and users on the right channels ==
* Today we have too many channels (ITT, maemo.org...). Maybe have some more focus like: maemo.org for developers and ITT for end users and something that link they so software releases can be announced automatically on ITT and users from ITT can easily post bugs on garage bugzilla for example.
** ''Perhaps develop a plan, but this isn't specific enough to achieve in 3 months, IMHO --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 22:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''

* Develop a recommended usage policy for garage.maemo projects, taking into account turning off GForge modules not needed (perhaps defaulting in a subset rather than all, for new projects). Further discussions on whether non-core bugs should be in central Bugzilla and garage trackers merged/closed.

* Close misnamed (and now misused) maemo2midgard-discuss mailing list and create maemo-web alongside existing mailing lists for overall discussions about maemo.org sites.

* It's unclear where to report problems about packages found in the application catalog. A single bug tracker is needed, or at least a catalog that would redirect the user to the appropriate tracker from a common start page. Or we could set up a "maemo" distribution on launchpad.net, which would let us integrate with the bug trackers of individual packages.

== Increase Openness ==
* Identify all closed components in ITOS at each layer:
** Initfs/direct hardware access
** Firmware used by kernel modules
** Low-level system daemons
** User-space applications
* For each package:
** Outline purpose in a dedicated wiki page
** Describe rationale for it being closed source
*** ''Will need some form of mediawiki template for such pages --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 22:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* Document in wiki the process for petitioning for opening of a component, or its specifiation.
* Document in wiki the process for ensuring any new closed packages get a wiki page containing this information.

== Beautification and format/style unification of maemo.org ==
=== Beautification ===
* Maemo.org can benefit from some face lifting - right now on 1280x1024 (this resolution seems to be very common to developers) only half of the real screen estate is used. With some loose block positioning both 800x480 and bigger resolutions can be supported. Maybe even specialized tablet finger-friendly look for those preferring it.
** ''Resolution seems fine to me at the moment, and it works fine on the tablet without requiring the extra effort of maintaining a separate tablet style. Perhaps reducing the min-width to not require horizontal scrolling with the tablet browser windowed would be useful, though. [[User:generalantilles|generalantilles]] 21:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
*** ''There won't be any extra effort on the resolution maintainment - this can be done with minor CSS modifications. As for the separate tablet style - this really requires extra effort and if done should be entirely optional. [[User:bundyo|bundyo]] 21:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* More relevant information displayed on front page, preferably customizable blocks like Netvibes and iGoogle. Since the content is gzipped, that won't be too harming to the traffic. Blocks can be optionally auto updated for those that like to keep their browser pages open (and if Prizm is ported - even in the tray). For instance new bugs section with voting on the fly will boost bugzilla usage.

=== Unification of format and style ===
* Format and style need to be unified across as much of the site as possible (excluding things like Garage and Bugzilla). Take, for instance [http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ Planet] and [http://maemo.org/news/ News], two pages that should be very similar, if not the same. Perhaps take News's style and format and apply it to Planet (add the contributor's avatar to the upper right of each article? Much like [http://slashdot.org slashdot] does with their article category images.), as the News style seems to off a cleaner look that better utilizes the available space.
* For the outliers like Garage and Bugzilla, at least the style should largely be unified with the main site—using the same fonts, same colors, etc.

== Improve Documentation ==
* Provide a better guide / ruleset for developers
** Define types of applications that will be useful on the Internet Tablet
** Stress the fact that the Internet Tablet is not a PC and apps should be created/ported with the tablet form in mind. Don't just do a direct port of an existing app. Aim for quality and Internet Tablet usablity.
** Focused discussion/guide on User Interface so apps will have a consistent look as well as provide a similar way to interface with the user
** Clearly define what changes is made by default on gtk : like GtkTreeView with hidded header columns by default, or image-button off ...

== Growing the community through better information for newcomers ==
* Currently, maemo.org structure is less than favourable for newcomers to get familiar on what maemo software and maemo.org is. If we want to grow the community we need to provide better introduction to the community and the software assets. Hence, the content of the Intro section should be refreshed and restructured.
* To create more clarity, I would suggest to remove the "Tips for tablet users" because the link to OS2008 web page is already on the home page. I would furthermore move the "Roadmap" page to the "development" section. The gallery page should be moved to "downloads" and someone should clean up the gallery to contain only relevant content. The presentation section is to some degree outdated and should also be cleaned up. The "White Paper" page should be really give a quick overview of what maemo software is. The "trademark" and "licenses" pages should be moved to "Terms of Use". And the "Links" should be moved to "Development".
* After all these changes, our intro section should include "Who is the maemo community?, What is the maemo platform? The maemo software architecture, How does maemo.org work? Quick start guide to develop on maemo software, and presentations" --[[User:peterschneider|peterschneider]] 10:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Task:100Days

2008-05-30T12:03:42Z

212.234.187.150: /* Update developer libraries */

The '''maemo.org 100 Days Action Plan'''

{| style="background-color:#f4f09c; border: 1px silver solid; padding: 10px;"
| [[Image:50px-Nuvola apps important yellow.svg.png|50px|left]]
|
* '''Please login''' before making any changes. '''Thank you'''.
* Please keep things '''on-topic'''.
* Avoid asking for end-user applications unless there's a '''good reason''' why they need to be tied into the underlying OS.
* Don't put things which aren't feasible in '''3 months'''. For long term suggestions, consider adding them at [[2010_Agenda|maemo.org 2010]].
|}

==Get the server and bandwidth infrastructure up to speed==
*Mirror the repository.maemo.org to ensure good uptime.
*Mirror tablets-dev.nokia.com to ensure good uptime.
*Improve the hardware and bandwidth availability behind *.maemo.org to ensure quick response—maemo.org is too slow!

== [http://www.internettablettalk.com Internet Tablet Talk] Syndication ==
* Provide an automatic way to re-list applications at the Internet Tablet Talk Software Section (itTSS).
* Each application (version) that is re-listed at Internet Tablet Talk, starts a new thread in the forums so end-users get notified of new apps as well as provide a way to give feedback to the developers. Developers themselves can also join in the discussion. This hope to help better the quality of applications.
* Provide a way for developers to easily add a bug at the application's Garage page for confirmed bugs reported in the discussion thread.

== Update developer libraries ==
* gcc-4.x, glib, powervr, it's important to give developers much more time to play with newer tools than short before a major upgrade takes place (of course with disclaimer that nothing is guaranteed to be shipped in a certain way)
*add IPv6 support!
**''Already in Diablo, not relevant to ''maemo.org'' [[User:generalantilles|generalantilles]] 23:36, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* A vmware appliance with sb and python2.5 setted. And more publicity on the vmware appliance, as their is already one on garage, but many don't know it.

== Focus developers and users on the right channels ==
* Today we have too many channels (ITT, maemo.org...). Maybe have some more focus like: maemo.org for developers and ITT for end users and something that link they so software releases can be announced automatically on ITT and users from ITT can easily post bugs on garage bugzilla for example.
** ''Perhaps develop a plan, but this isn't specific enough to achieve in 3 months, IMHO --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 22:10, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''

* Develop a recommended usage policy for garage.maemo projects, taking into account turning off GForge modules not needed (perhaps defaulting in a subset rather than all, for new projects). Further discussions on whether non-core bugs should be in central Bugzilla and garage trackers merged/closed.

* Close misnamed (and now misused) maemo2midgard-discuss mailing list and create maemo-web alongside existing mailing lists for overall discussions about maemo.org sites.

* It's unclear where to report problems about packages found in the application catalog. A single bug tracker is needed, or at least a catalog that would redirect the user to the appropriate tracker from a common start page. Or we could set up a "maemo" distribution on launchpad.net, which would let us integrate with the bug trackers of individual packages.

== Increase Openness ==
* Identify all closed components in ITOS at each layer:
** Initfs/direct hardware access
** Firmware used by kernel modules
** Low-level system daemons
** User-space applications
* For each package:
** Outline purpose in a dedicated wiki page
** Describe rationale for it being closed source
*** ''Will need some form of mediawiki template for such pages --[[User:jaffa|jaffa]] 22:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* Document in wiki the process for petitioning for opening of a component, or its specifiation.
* Document in wiki the process for ensuring any new closed packages get a wiki page containing this information.

== Beautification and format/style unification of maemo.org ==
=== Beautification ===
* Maemo.org can benefit from some face lifting - right now on 1280x1024 (this resolution seems to be very common to developers) only half of the real screen estate is used. With some loose block positioning both 800x480 and bigger resolutions can be supported. Maybe even specialized tablet finger-friendly look for those preferring it.
** ''Resolution seems fine to me at the moment, and it works fine on the tablet without requiring the extra effort of maintaining a separate tablet style. Perhaps reducing the min-width to not require horizontal scrolling with the tablet browser windowed would be useful, though. [[User:generalantilles|generalantilles]] 21:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
*** ''There won't be any extra effort on the resolution maintainment - this can be done with minor CSS modifications. As for the separate tablet style - this really requires extra effort and if done should be entirely optional. [[User:bundyo|bundyo]] 21:26, 29 May 2008 (UTC)''
* More relevant information displayed on front page, preferably customizable blocks like Netvibes and iGoogle. Since the content is gzipped, that won't be too harming to the traffic. Blocks can be optionally auto updated for those that like to keep their browser pages open (and if Prizm is ported - even in the tray). For instance new bugs section with voting on the fly will boost bugzilla usage.

=== Unification of format and style ===
* Format and style need to be unified across as much of the site as possible (excluding things like Garage and Bugzilla). Take, for instance [http://maemo.org/news/planet-maemo/ Planet] and [http://maemo.org/news/ News], two pages that should be very similar, if not the same. Perhaps take News's style and format and apply it to Planet (add the contributor's avatar to the upper right of each article? Much like [http://slashdot.org slashdot] does with their article category images.), as the News style seems to off a cleaner look that better utilizes the available space.
* For the outliers like Garage and Bugzilla, at least the style should largely be unified with the main site—using the same fonts, same colors, etc.

== Improve Documentation ==
* Provide a better guide / ruleset for developers
** Define types of applications that will be useful on the Internet Tablet
** Stress the fact that the Internet Tablet is not a PC and apps should be created/ported with the tablet form in mind. Don't just do a direct port of an existing app. Aim for quality and Internet Tablet usablity.
** Focused discussion/guide on User Interface so apps will have a consistent look as well as provide a similar way to interface with the user
** Clearly define what changes is made by default on gtk : like GtkTreeView with hidded header columns by default, or image-button off ...

== Growing the community through better information for newcomers ==
* Currently, maemo.org structure is less than favourable for newcomers to get familiar on what maemo software and maemo.org is. If we want to grow the community we need to provide better introduction to the community and the software assets. Hence, the content of the Intro section should be refreshed and restructured.
* To create more clarity, I would suggest to remove the "Tips for tablet users" because the link to OS2008 web page is already on the home page. I would furthermore move the "Roadmap" page to the "development" section. The gallery page should be moved to "downloads" and someone should clean up the gallery to contain only relevant content. The presentation section is to some degree outdated and should also be cleaned up. The "White Paper" page should be really give a quick overview of what maemo software is. The "trademark" and "licenses" pages should be moved to "Terms of Use". And the "Links" should be moved to "Development".
* After all these changes, our intro section should include "Who is the maemo community?, What is the maemo platform? The maemo software architecture, How does maemo.org work? Quick start guide to develop on maemo software, and presentations" --[[User:peterschneider|peterschneider]] 10:02, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Task:2010 Agenda

2008-05-30T07:40:26Z

212.234.187.150: /* End-user software wishlist */

Help defining the '''maemo.org 2010 Agenda'''. This is taken to mean the vision the community has for the state of maemo in 2010.

{| style="background-color:#f4f09c; border: 1px silver solid; padding: 10px;"
| [[Image:50px-Nuvola apps important yellow.svg.png|50px|left]]
|
* '''Please login''' before making any changes. '''Thank you'''.
* '''Hardware requests''' are entirely ''out-of-scope'' and will be removed by community members trying to keep this page focused and on-topic.
* '''Software requests''' which would be trivial for a third party to provide—or are already on the roadmap—are ''out-of-scope'' and will be removed by community members trying to keep this page focused and on-topic.
|}

== maemo development process ==
=== Openness, openness, openness ===
* Core libraries developed in the open by Nokia employees, and maemo.org community contributors.
* Non-Nokia specification writing and approval, worked on by Nokia employees and maemo.org community contributors; discussed on public mailing lists.
* The ability to build a complete, flashable image by maemo.org community for beta testing of open components in development. (May be less necessary in an SSU-based world: TBC)
* The ability to strip a maemo-based OS down to its base and build it up again differently (for example, KDE and no Hildon).
** By 2010, installing completely different UIs should be achievable through the Application Manager.

== Maemo developer resources ==
* Better localization guidelines for new and existing Developers.
--keep focused on the core of the project
--stay unified and work out the details later
--focus every module in a step by step instead of a free for all
--delegate. Newbs need the experience
* Development Framework. ???
* Documentation System. (Help system???)
--getting started is way to difficult and will detour many great minds
--outsource to the blogger types in the group
--voice record "dictate to the typers"
--video and slide w/audio help for many
--cut out the opinions where are the real facts (make an easy to find location)
* Better GPS resources. (GeoClue???)
* Development Tools and Utilities for Linux, OS X and Windows.
--GUI development package (reduce learning curve)
--Better feedback on testing of packages
--make simple system for ideas to be tried
* Better modern native languages support - like Vala and D. && how to build a hello world app in C++/Vala in 10 minute (no more!)
--
=== Ship high level building blocks ===
* Think of media server, VoIP, contact lists, camera, GPS localization. Currently developers only have the low level API's, while mostly they just want a widget that displays the mentioned data and listen to user interaction signal or device signals. This also makes these functionalities look the same in all applications using them

== End-user software wishlist ==
Software requests are really '''out-of-scope''' and ''not relevant'' to this brainstorming session (or able to be provided by third party developers without maemo.org involvement); however, they are recorded here so they ''do not get duplicated'':
* A PIM system that can be tied into by developers, to provide PC synchronization etc.
** A equivalent to telepathy for calendar,contact list, and tasks: A well integrated framework (with binding for many languages such python).
* Telepathy:
** Better video call support
* Global sync-software
* Office suite. (???) see discussion
* Unionfs support built into the kernel (So users don't have to flash initfs and boot from SD, or make symlinks gone wild, just to install a few extra apps)
* a2dp
* Better support for right-to-left languages, such as Arabic, and Hebrew.

== Becoming the best-in-class community for innovation on mobile devices running Linux ==
What does it take to become the de-facto community to innovate open source for Linux-based devices? Obviously, we are not alone when it comes to development on Linux on mobile devices. Development communities for Android platform and LIMO platform are likely to grow in the next 2 years. So, how do we ensure that we keep on getting the greatest brains to our community? Only through continuous growth and fresh community members from around the globe we can ensure that we get new ideas and new challenges from which we all can learn. Only through continuous learning we can create better software and better user experiences.

So again, what does it take to be a major force in open source for Linux-based devices?
* a vision, a strategy, and mid-term objectives for the community
* clear and transparent rules of engagement and recognition of contributions in the community
* a virtual meeting place i.e. maemo.org but also community events for people to meet in person
* a powerful core operating system incorporating the latest versions of open source upstream projects
* best-in-class open devices for rapid prototyping on latest hardware
* easy to use tools to create, prototype, and rewrite applications on top of the SDKs
* tools for contributors to software "below" the SDK to prototype and publish enhancements
* strong ties with the other open source community projects
* deep understanding of consumer behavior, preferences, and consumer trends in different cultures
* a mechanism on how to deliver software from open source innovation to millions of consumers

But at the end of the day, it's all about people, relationships and networks. The community needs to be able to maintain and extend the network between the people in an efficient, fair, and transparent way.

Only when we have in our Maemo Agenda 2010 answers on how we provide the above mentioned characteristics to ourselves, then we can succeed to bring open source innovation to millions of people across the globe and change their lives.